does barack obama need bill clinton more or does bill clinton need barack obama more? i think they need each other. bill clinton, the inflew enser. i think for barack obama there's no more effective, articulate defender of his right to be re-elected right now than bill clinton. >> okay. >> so along the same lines is a new poll, quinnipiac, "new york times" poll that shows mr. obama is up by 10 points in the state of ohio over mitt romney. is that for the efforts of obama's great campaigning or does it have more to do with bill clinton and that widely admired speech he gave at the dnc? >> i think it's a lot to do with bill clinton. i think if you look at the way the polls have gone in the swing states since the convention, you have to say that the effect of bill clinton's speech has been extremely positive because he was able in that speech in a very detailed and mathematical incontrovertibly mathematical way present the argument for re-election for barack obama. i think he did it better than barack obama did. now that they are out there together, you've got to look at